Tuesday, August 9, 2011

The Florentine- Timeless memories


I recently posted a pic of the old mansion, the Oglivie- Weiner House and the comments went viral within an hour. It has recently been purchased by John Bryant and his wife to be renovated into a bed and breakfast.

So many memories for so many people were born in this wonderful magical place. Quoting Bailey Thomas,, "The Florentine on Austin Place not far from downtown Shreveport. Originally home to the W.B. Ogilvie family and later to the Samuel Weiner family. In the 1950s, Robert Friend opened it as "The Florentine" which was a gathering spot for entertainers, celebrities and the eclectic. From "Historic Shreveport".

In the 70's Gene Barnett took possession of the grand old home. It became the home of the first openly gay bar in Shreveport. Again, those who were members of the LGBT community as well as those who weren't, celebrities, (I met a few myself as a teen there) and Shreveport's elite would dance the night away under the big disco ball that hung in the main ballroom.

Below are just a few of the comments where those who were there and miss it open their hearts to tell of the wonderful people we met there, some we loved, some we lost. But mostly we found ourselves there and connected to many who were there for the same reason.


For all my True Blood friends, this is the house that is in the opening credits of the series when it was in its hey day.
The FLORENTINE CLUB on Austin Place with the name emblazoned it. During its hey...See more
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    • Paula O'Neal I am so glad someone has bought it and is restoring it!!!!
      21 hours ago · · 3 people
    • Don McCoy Debbie, that was the opening credits for when WE were in our heyday...BAH! That place ruled.
      21 hours ago · · 3 people
    • Deborah Allen I'm next door at the Mercy Center alot I havent seen anyone there restoring it yet.
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    • Kevin Brooks Was just talking about that last night!
      21 hours ago · · 1 person
    • Deborah Allen Oh the partying that went down in that place. I was just a mere child, mind you.
      21 hours ago · · 1 person
    • Don McCoy It's a shame that no one has bought that place and restored it.
      21 hours ago · · 1 person
    • Deborah Allen Don, after Saturday night, we are STILL in our heyday, dont you think?
      21 hours ago · · 1 person
    • Kevin Brooks The nights I woke up in the yard ...lol
      21 hours ago · · 3 people
    • Don McCoy Debbie, I was sneaking in there at 15 WITHOUT an ID!
      21 hours ago · · 2 people
    • Don McCoy Deb, totally agreed.
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    • Tammie Wiltz I heard it was up for sale for only 80 thousand...don't know if that's true...but if so I hope someone snagged it.!!
      21 hours ago ·
    • Paula O'Neal ‎@Don McCoy, someone HAS.
      21 hours ago · · 3 people
    • Deborah Allen ‎@ Kevin that beats waking up upstairs with Miss Kitty and her dogs. lol
      21 hours ago · · 1 person
    • Deborah Allen ‎@ Don, I was there with my fake ID at 16 too. Like I said, a mere child.
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    • Paula O'Neal Remember the killer party Danny threw me there?
      21 hours ago · · 1 person
    • Rebecca Bush In the 70s it was fabulous! You should see the Taj Mahal mural upstairs!
      21 hours ago · · 2 people
    • Paula O'Neal I've never been upstairs, but was always curious about it.
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    • Deborah Allen ‎@ paula, yes! I was there!
      21 hours ago · · 1 person
    • Deborah Allen I can still see Chuck Davis in the corner DJing and me nagging him to play "Bella Lagosi's dead" a katrillion times. :)
      21 hours ago · · 1 person
    • Paula O'Neal I remember. You did my makeup, Bartilicous cut and colored my hair, and I got a manicure -- all at Ultimate Appearances.
      21 hours ago · · 2 people
    • Deborah Allen Paula O'Neal Danny did the video for the event too. It was awesome.
      21 hours ago · · 1 person
    • David Golden I think Gene(wasn't that his name?) lived upstairs...This was the first club I ever went to...and back then even if you had a fake ID,half the time you did't need it! I REALLY hope someone is restoring it...I went with a few investors @ 8-10 years ago and even then it was too expensive to fix up for a club.....it's sad b/c in it's heyday,as Deb said it was awesome...Let's hope SHE will RISE AGAIN!!!!
      21 hours ago · · 1 person
    • David Golden Who is fixing it up??
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    • Leighton LaBorde I was connected to the people that bought it 15 or 20 years ago when it first closed down. I got the opportunity to crawl through the whole place. it's like a maze! and there are far more rooms and halls and whatnot than you realize. Such a great house.
      21 hours ago ·
    • Leighton LaBorde and yeah, I partied there a bit too. :)
      21 hours ago ·
    • Kathy Smith My parents got married in 1955 and had their rehersal dinner there! She says it was a lot different than when we went there. Ya think?
      21 hours ago · · 1 person
    • Leighton LaBorde ‎@ David. Gene was his name.
      21 hours ago ·
    • Deborah Allen Gene Barnett was who owned it through the 70s. Its changed hands several times. At one point, it was even donated to the Philadelphia Center. PC didnt have the funds to renovate it, so we sold it as well.
      21 hours ago ·
    • Rici Loc CLUES !!!!
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    • Rici Loc I had talked 2 Gene a few weeks before he passed he called & said his throat cancer was better & in a few weeks he wanted 2 reopen & for me 2 start making fliers then Chuck called me & told me the sad news it was definitely the end of an era in Shreveport there will NEVER be a place like it
      20 hours ago · · 2 people
    • Kathryn Usher John Bryant and his wife have purchased the Oglivie-Wiener House. Three Shreveport artists have been documenting the house as part of the Texas Avenue Midnight Specialproject that launched just last week. There are some photos of the Oglivie-Wiener place on the TAMS Facebook page that you might enjoy.
      20 hours ago · · 1 person
    • Lewis Kalmbach I tell people that all the time and they are like "Your Kidding?" "NOOOOOO". Ohhh honey if those walls could talk....I'd be grounded for life!
      20 hours ago · · 2 people
    • Lewis Kalmbach Oh yes....Gene Barnett. Every night he would clear the dance floor and dance to "Love Is In The Air". Swishing and swirling about.
      20 hours ago · · 2 people
    • Roger Culver my first job out of high school was working the door there.
      19 hours ago · · 1 person
    • Debra Maiden I worked their when it was Clue and Florentine, wow debbie i know you thought i only did social work hehe. Yes Gene lived upstairs and it was soooooooooooooo beautiful. Those were the days.
      19 hours ago · · 1 person
    • Deborah Allen ‎@ Lewis, and he had candles lit on every table. It was so elegant. But we all knew he was more concerned with how HE looked in the lighting than the table :) He told me that one night. I was too young to understand why. :)
      18 hours ago · · 1 person
    • Harvey Dillahunty We were so lucky to have such a wonderful place to find ourselves--love was in the air and The Florentine gave us much happiness by the friends we met and still have today
      16 hours ago · · 1 person
    • Cecil Thad Coburn ‎"Love is in the Air .." if I remember correctly Gene wasn't the only one swishing and swirling on the dance floor..
      16 hours ago · · 1 person
    • Paul Weiss God Talk about a blaste from the past, those were the good ol days of parting till the wee hrs. There are those that remember the real Ms Kitty's Place! BadGirl lol
      15 hours ago ·
    • John Turner It's fortunate that Goodloe Stuck and the North Louisiana Preservation Society succeeded in saving all those Austin Place buildings in the 70s.
      15 hours ago · · 1 person
    • Deborah Allen ‎@ Harvey its where I met you! You were the cute young bartender who made me Sloe Gin Fizzes!
      15 hours ago ·
    • Joy Lynn Rosser I have some strong memories of that place, both in it's hey day and later as a haunted house.
      5 hours ago ·
    • Deborah Allen I also met Susan Sookie Pilkinton Lloyd there too. Who introduced me to her cousin Kim, who I introduced to my brother in law Richard Harold and they got married. Theres so many turns and roads in my life that lead back to this wonderful old home.
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    • Susan Sookie Pilkinton Lloyd OMG! Gene use to grab we and head to the dance floor when "Love is in the Air" would play. The first time he did that I thought he was coming to try to shove coffee down my throat. When I got too wild, he would call my mother and tell on me. Mz. KITTY & THE PIRANHA DEL RAY, WITH A MIDNIGHT SHOW FEATURING THE MUSICAL STYLINGS OF THE ODD BUT ENTERTAINING COUPLE, MR. TOMMY KENNEDY & MZ. SOOKIE STARR! Tommy always found a way to occasionally make introductions. I miss him! And the kids these days thinking they are buying the highest of platforms!? Well, they need to take a gander at Fab Frank Lytle's and Susan Salters 10 to 12 inch platforms. My highest were only 9 inches and I still danced. When I stopped drinking over 30 yrs ago, Gene use to have a pot of coffee on and expected me to be there to visit in the back bar after 9pm on our designated nights. He was so glad I stopped. I'm thankful to have known that side of Gene & also to have been involved in those colorful times at the then magical FLORENTINE!
      about an hour ago · · 1 person
    • Susan Sookie Pilkinton Lloyd ‎@DEBBIE! He had me stay up there a few times when I drank too much and called my mother so she wouldn't worry. "Mamie Dahling, little Sookie had too much scotch and who knows what again and I don't think she needs to be driving to Elm Grove. I did not like the looks of those strangers that wanted her to go home with them, so she will be staying here. She will be able to drive tomorrow!" oh LORD. I would hear about it for weeks from both my Mother and Gene. Those dogs of his were very protective. Glad they liked me. Weren't they Shepherds? No wonder Gene was happy when I stopped drinking. We also had a few relative secrets that I won't mention on here, but a few of our old time closest friends are aware of some of that side story that had more to do with Gene, me and the Florentine back then than anybody realizes. I will wait til they are all haunting before I put that in a book. I plan to haunt that place and dance the night away with so many of my friends!;-)
      53 minutes ago · · 1 person
    • Deborah Allen I remember Franks 12 inch platforms, his tall lanky body gliding down the stairway in them. What a sweet boy. The first friend we lost to a hate crime. It haunted me way into my late 20s. We were on the way to his funeral, I was pregnant with Micah and we were in a car wreck in the Fiat. It was a miracle I lived through that and didnt lose my baby. Like I said to John, the Florentine has been a part of my life in so many ways. Love and lost so many
      people there.

      • Paula O'Neal I remember when it was starting to suffer, they opened it for "fancy" lunches.
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      • John Bryant
        The Florentine started in 1950 as a supper club, known for the piano bar and upscale entertainment. Long list of celebs. from that time period preformed there, many more in attendence. We have some menus and flyers from those days. Lots of outdoor pictures, less inside.They had a sale many years ago and unloaded all the things from the original club. We have tracked down a few but still looking. I enjoy talking to older people that remember the club, one lady talks about the night she met Betty Davis, another about the Louisiana Hayride stars that came in, lots of shreveport history. We are really looking for those with memories, or better yet pictures of the days before the club. The Ogilvies owned the house for only about 10 years. The Wiener family around 40.
        about a minute ago · · 1 person

12 comments:

  1. Amazing that I did a Google search and lo and behold: the house is still there. Today, April 9th, marks the 37th anniversary of my coming out at The Florentine Room. I was in my freshman year at Centenary. If I recall correctly it was Easter weekend. I spent many, many a night haunting that house. Later I became the DJ—my first such stint. Socially withdrawn in high school, I overcame that problem, learned to dance and progressed to being able to do the line walk FACING the rest of the crowd. I know there was some cattiness back then, but for the most part, everyone supported everyone else. Met my first coupla crushes there—at least, the first ones I could actually DO something about.

    Unfortunately, I have had to rush through S'port a few times over the years and always wondered if the house was still standing; couldn't take time for an investigative detour. I am glad to see that The Florentine is still there. It also warms my soul to see the other remembrances here. RIP, Gene and all the others of that day who made my coming out such a happy experience. I know that disco ball's spinning in heaven!

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  2. I quote a letter of 11 Sep 1977 from "Mike D." here:
    "I'm taking fifteen hours (at least right now) this semester. With three other jobs in addition to classes and homework, I figure I will be dead or insane or both by Christmas break. ... My third job is DJ-ing at the Florentine, if you're ready for that! I have been spinning the records there for about a month now, and so far the place has been packed on the weekends. A lot of people are coming in from Dallas, Houston, and New Orleans, so apparently word is spreading that there is finally a decent bar in Shreveport. Wednesday and Thursday nights are a little busier than normal, but still pretty slow. Still, I am doing my damnedest to get the people in. Last two weekends in a row I broke the door record--something like 400 people a night, whic is unbelievable considereing that this is Shreveport, after all! Last night I had an incredible crowd to work with; I have never seen people stay on the floor as long as they were doing. Even the dykes finally quit pestering me for slow songs and were out strutting their stuff."

    For my memories of 1976 through 1977, I recall Friday and Saturday evenings coming from the air base with several friends and dancing until the bar closed. When I got orders to relocate to Germany, an older guy (maybe as old as 45!) told me gay slang to use when I went to bars there.

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  3. I hate that the new owner, Mrs. Bryant, I can only assume flagrantly omitted Gene and his ownership of the Florentine from at least the 70s (his favorite time for the Florentine- he spoke of it fondly and with many funny stories) clear thru the late 90s, when he passed away. It was also his home. I suppose that part of the house's history is too unseemly to mention, considering the money Mrs. Bryant is trying to raise for its renovation. Am I happy it's being restored? Of course! But I am equally upset that they neglected to mention Gene, since I worked for him as first a bartender and later the manager of the club during the early to mid-90s, I had much love for that man. Rest in peace, Gene. You will not be forgotten!

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  4. You all are so correct, the Florentine Club was Shreveports last true Grand Dame. I was the DJ there back in the early 80s and it was a blast. I will always miss Gene, he was a great friend to me as well as the Gay community. The will never be another Mz. Kitty or another Florentine.

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  5. My Uncle and Aunt ...John and Lil Noble also owned the Florentine Club in the 50's. Spent many years going there and have pictures of the entertainers with my Uncle and Aunt. My cousin has one of the huge mirrors from the house.

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  6. Anyone remember a DJ there named Glen? Circa 1979-82. Last name? I had him play "The Great Curve" by Talking Heads and it cleared the floor.

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  7. It been fun reading this! I can only imagine!

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  8. The Florentine will always hold a special place in my heart. The best of times. I always feel like I grew up there. I'm still friends with Harvey and I will love Frank Lytle through out
    Eternity. Sookie I hope you are well and my shoes Frank made me were 12 inches high...wish I still had them

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    1. Suzan, I was about to ask if this was you! I was there when Frank made those fab platforms for you and himself, All eyes were on you guys at the Hircsh! Debbie Wall

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  9. Many...many great memories of the Florentine

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  10. It's wonderful to hear people talk about Frank Lytle. He was my first real boyfriend. My first night ever at the Florentine was the Mr. Gay Louisiana pageant. A bunch of sexy men from all over the state, and in between the swimsuits and whatever other categories, drag performances. Naomi Sims! And one fabulous queen being carried in on a litter by four guys (one of whom I knew from college, but who had felt he needed to be circumspect down there at Northwestern in Natchitoches). She performed Diamonds Are Forever and to this day that song sparks so much Proustian feeling for me. Thank you, Florentine. I had moved up north and been through more than a few men when I heard the news about Frank. Devastated. Horrible. Memories...

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